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First, let me go back and say this about Logan: It didn't even really dawn on me that X-24 was fully infused with adamantium like Logan was. I thought maybe just his claws, like Laura. I figured that was why his head explodes like a watermelon. That's what a hollowpoint magnum round does to a skull (SpoilerJust reiterating my frustration at the idea of an indestructable metal expanding from impact here. That's the physics that my brain can't get around.). But I still headcanon the reason it killed was more to do with how his healing factor was at it's lowest efficiency and less about the projectile's material. Kind of a stupid decision by the scientists, a second (twenty-fourth?) Wolverine with even less conscience.

But back to the point. I still disagree, the gun physics do already exist without the need for super science comic book magic. The problem isn't the gun, or even 99% of the bullet, but with the durability of a fictional metal projectile. Domino argument: If A is possible (if adamantium can damage adamantium), then A's possibility makes B possible, and so on and so forth. At the end of this debate, I just want to point out I don't really accept that A is possible. I'm just conceding that if A were possible, then the Redhawk and Night Special would be handguns that could fire the necessary rounds to make it happen. Higher grade propellants already exist for larger caliber weapons, so if anything you could just load the round with one of those since you wouldn't have to worry about the extra heat warping/melting the projectile. The physics are there. Which really begs the question: If A were possible then why didn't someone just coat a cannonball and blast Wolverine? Probably because Spoilerthe movie would end in two seconds.

"Look, there's Wolverine!"
BOOM
"... and there, and there, and there ..."

Actually, why didn't they use cannons in the first place? His bones are coated, not his joints. It wouldn't keep his limbs attached. Really sloppy assassination attempts. First episode was pretty good, especially if you consider that creepypasta is just a high school kid's crowd-sourced fanfiction. Felt the swinging camera single room photography for the second room really turned the creepiness up a notch. Of course, then the commercials kill any built up tension. Also can it really be called a jump scare if it's telegraphed worse than the punches in a Hogan / Ultimate Warrior match?

It's been made official: Joss Whedon has cut out Lex Luthor from Justice League. So no Eisenburg ... which as far as characters good riddance. Of all the faults in BvS, he was a pretty freakin' huge one. Not sure how it'll affect the overall narrative of JL, or the DCEU in general, but I'm not complaining.

Nothing is set in stone, but according to RenewCancelTV ABC has already canceled The Inhumans. The network is promoting it as "the complete series" instead of "the first season."

20th Century Fox CEO Stacey Snider recently described the upcoming New Mutants movie as "The Shining with horny teenagers." Maybe they're trying to push for an R rating?

Edited, Sep 21st 2017 9:50am by lolgaxe

I just assumed X-24 had an adamantium skeleton because why would you send a squishy calcium skeleton guy to fight Wolverine? But the Wiki backs it up that his skeleton was shiny and bright.

I didn't bother looking for Laura but I assumed she was claws-only because otherwise she'd be 4' 2" forever.

They've been showing the first episode of the new Duck Tales on/off for a month or so now. Looks like the actual series is starting up now though, with episodes 2 and 3 airing this weekend on Disney XD. I set it to record. I liked the pilot enough, when I first saw it the voices of the kids threw me off a bit. But I think I'll get over it.

As for the Wolverine stuff. After a quick search, turns out the info was from something called the "Xavier Protocols". Something Prof. X made as ways to defeat the X-Men in situations where they become a threat. SpoilerFor Wolverine, it recommended Decapitation from long range, and keeping the head separate from the body to avoid it reattaching. But also mentions it's from a timeline/universe where either Wolverine never got the Adamantium Skeleton, or it was removed. So his healing factor was drastically increased. (Apparently the Adamantium being poisonous and reducing his healing factor wasn't something unique to the movie).

Well, it was that it was both adamantium and ... something. I remember it was something stupid that didn't make sense to me, but it was also definitely adamantium. Sure, but that's why we're wrong. We're basing our interpretation on the decades of established canon. The movies aren't. The comics established that even Rune God Thor, using all of his Allfather-tier power, can only barely dent adamantium (and you need a microscope to see the dent), and adamantium hits adamantium all the time to no effect. The movies have decided to make the metal less durable. And I get it, they wanted to "be grounded" so the audience "could relate" to a more realistic interpretation.

Pretty minor, considering what they did with Darwin in First Class. Now that was rage inducing reinterpretation. SpoilerIt's pretty ridiculous, too. The time Magneto pulled it out of Wolverine's body his healing factor kicked up so high that it de-evolved him into a cavebub. Because someone thought that was cool. But a bigger plot hole in the books is that Bullseye has some of his bones fused with adamantium as well, yet he's never dealt with poisoning.

Gotham: Why exactly was Selena walking down an alley in the 1980s? SpoilerThe "Batman appears and disappears after meeting Gordan" scene was a nice touch. Feel like I'm going to enjoy Scarecrow's arc, but so far Gotham has a tendency to start strong and end weak. Also that was the first episode of The Orville I saw, but I'm going to go ahead and assume it was stupid bad even by it's own subpar standards, yes? It's not like I've never seen a standard sitcom PSA episode or two in my time but ... that was just beyond bad. Well, that was the fastest a show went on and off my dvr so I guess it accomplished something.

Reports are coming in that Kiersey Clemons' Iris West has also been cut from the Justice League. Joss Whedon is apparently weed whackin' the hell out of the film, what with Lex's cut confirmation.

Edited, Sep 22nd 2017 3:57pm by lolgaxe

You're never letting that one go, are you? I get it though. One really glaring thing in what was otherwise a really excellent film becomes a bigger letdown than it might otherwise be.




This got retconned a bit I think. The original issue came up during the whole Genosia arc where Logan's mutant powers were disabled. It wasn't that the adamantium was poisoning him, but that because his entire bone structure was coated in adamantium, making them non-porous, so his bones couldn't naturally produce white blood cells (I think?). Which meant he got progressively weaker and sicker and would eventually die. This is part of the reason why full bone/adamantium grafting is so rare. Even if one is strong enough to survive the initial procedure, if you don't have some kind of sufficiently powerful healing factor to compensate, you'll die over time. This is presumably why Sabertooth was told he wouldn't survive in Origins (which annoyed him). The implication there was that he was physically stronger and tougher than Logan, but Logan's healing was much stronger and faster.

It's not an issue for Bulleye because only some of his vertebrate were fused with adamantium, not his entire bone structure. He's got enough normal healthy bones, with sufficient marrow in them, to allow for normal production of white blood cells.

It was never originally about adamantium being poisonous on its own. I can't speak to them changing it over time. Even the whole thing in Old Man Logan I always assumed to be that as he got older, his healing factor had gradually gotten weaker, to the point where it couldn't counteract the effect of the absence of white blood cells. This is a case of the retcon creating conflicts and contradictions that weren't there in the original version. And yeah, almost certainly a case of a writer wanting to write something a certain way, with zero regard for what had been the before, and what side effects it might have.



Seemed like they were going for equal opportunity offensiveness. I'm pretty sure every "side" of multiple aspects of that issue came out of that resolution pretty unhappy.

On the flip side, it was interesting to see what I thought was a series based on pure slapstick and farce tackle a social issue like that. Not sure they handled it right, but it was "interesting". I'd say it was almost refreshing for them to *not* go with the stock "everyone realizes how wrong what they were doing is, changes their mind, and we have a happy ending". Almost. I'm sure most folks just raged about it though.

I watched the two episodes of the new Duck Tales over the weekend. And enjoyed them. But oddly enough, the 3rd episode didn't have the Red one in it at all... (Huey?) Not even in passing, or at the beginning. Webby is probably the best character so far.

I think I have to tune into DisneyXD more often. Seems that it's mostly Marvel cartoons mixed with Phineas/Ferb reruns and Milo Murphy's Law (Which, apparently has Weird Al voicing the main character). And unlike Cartoon Network or Nickelodeon, I don't have to wait a week if I miss (recording) a show. They re-air episodes every few hours. Disney must not have a show like Spongebob or Teen Titans Go that they force on every available minute instead of their other shows.

Hannah John-Kamen (or her stunt double) dressed in her Ghost costume in Ant-Man & The Wasp. Also bonus points for Paul Rudd's stunt double in costume as well.

SyFy ordered Image Comics' Deadly Class to pilot, and it'll be directed by the Russo brothers. The Mist has been effectively cancelled. It had some things going for it, but the pacing made it like marathoning just the boring stretches of The Walking Dead. And we already have Fear The Walking Dead for that.

Edited, Sep 28th 2017 3:34pm by lolgaxe

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Edited, Sep 28th 2017 10:20am by Jophiel

What lolgaxe said. It's a fun film, has good pacing, is internally consistent, etc. I's got a good balance of laughs and serious stuff. Well worth the time to watch IMO. And it does fit in to the larger Marvel universe stuff, so it's a good idea to watch just so you're not like "who is this guy?".

I've had a similar issue with most of the Fall Marvel releases. It's hard to find time to see them in the theaters (at least with my schedule), so I usually only see them when they get released to cable, or I buy them on bluray (cause I'm a sucker and buy most of the Marvel stuff just for completeness sake). Not sure exactly why Fall is always a bad time, but it just seems to work out that way.

Orville's federation thing apparently doesn't have a "Prime Directive". Or if they do they don't even pretend to care about it like TNG did most of the time until it suited them otherwise. SpoilerSo they went from last week's "Our set ways won't be swayed by a single surprise witness, it will take time" to this week's "Million people living in a society that doesn't know the universe exists beyond their visible world has their world turned up side down and everything is OK."

OK. I mean, overall I guess I liked the episode enough. It was probably the best out of the four so far. The comedy has really taken a back seat (Almost nothing funny this episode). And the adventure drama part is still not all that impressive. Probably cause I'm still expecting something funny instead.

Channel Zero episode 2. A bit too much talky for me. SpoilerWith the whole "I needed you to be there, not go to college!" between the girl friends. But Fake-Not-Loser Guy really wanted to taste that Ice Cream. Am-Loser guy was not very smart.

And Fake-Dad was literally eating the daughter's memories. I was expecting the Dad to start creating the world that the Daughter wanted to make her more likely to stay and believe it's all real or better than real. Instead he rips apart the body to find... really big caviar?

I thought that the daughter was lying when she said the breakfast was "perfect" after the father said it tasted like nothing. That she didn't want to make him suspicious. But now I think it actually did taste fine to her. That the food wasn't what was wrong, but him. And the only thing he can taste is her memories.

He has a particular set of skills. Including being able to accept money with little concern of the quality of the source of that money.

I didn't really liken it to the Q episodes. I thought it was a lot closer to this episode just without the whole "Prime Directive" part. It even has the "new stuff is scary" repressive culture.

Edited, Sep 29th 2017 9:53am by TirithRR

Oh yeah. Since the critics have panned Inhumans, that probably means it'll be awesome, right?

Edited, Sep 29th 2017 3:31pm by gbaji