There is a travesty among us.Follow

Actually at low levels this setup is no longer a bad idea

With the new change to signet that allows for resting without losing TP

There is no negative side effect to subbing whm at low levels

No other sub at that level provides very useful abilities

FIXED FOR GREAT JUSTICE.

I can't stress enough how right this is at level 20WAR. Unless you're soloing I don't see the point either.

On a side note it was fun reading about the origin of Buttersheep.
Even though I knew what it meant I never knew where the term came from. Thanks GalkaAnimal

I'm gonna have to say this person was soloing before they got to the party. While soloing, they got the invite, and forgot to change subjobs.

In Quifim, not many people carry around oils and powders for easy mobility. Also, the person could of offered to go change their subjobs and the party lead said don't worry bout it. Either way, once you get to a camp in quifim, normaly you don't want to leave till the party is over.

Now, the question is, was this person doing a bad job? Were they not able to tank efficiently?

Even in wierd party set ups, I will stick around. why you ask? It's a game. I'm fine with the occasional party wipe with death and destruction as long as I enjoy myself.

I'll leave a party if a person is being less than plesent for sure. People complaining about others gear, subjob, and such, I tend to avoid. Even kicked them from my party aswell.

I once went through the dunes with a war tank in my party who wouldn't voke cause the mobs would hit them. It took me about 2 hours to teach him why the mob was supposed to hit him and not me and how to set up his provoke macro. But I didn't leave the party.

(on a side note, if i'm in a merit party and a person doesn't know how to provoke, I may leave. But not on a pre 25 party)

Animal i want to know, Seriously

in your noob lv did you did that once?

playing a job with a gimp sub? or a wrong sub?

Hmm.. Interesting. sounds like a missed opportunity to enlighten or teach a new player... Or learn...

imho, one has very little standing to complain if they choose to do nothing to help or correct the "problem"... But i suppose doing nothing constructive yet insulting others and calling them names in order to feel superior is like that insecure 12 year old stroking his own e-peen, thinking he's actually fooling people that he's cool...

oh the irony...

a travesty is here...but it aint the buttersheeps...

Edited, Apr 16th 2007 1:11pm by Mujuru

Muj saying a 12 year old stroking his e-peen just may be funnier.

/em imagines muj walking in on this and crying

No. But if I think hard enough I'm sure I can remember a lot of noobish things I've done that are much, much worse. ;)





Wow, Muj. You are so wise. Why didn't I think to talk to this player about this problem? Oh, wait. I did. Turns out you were too eager to sound all sagacious and missed the entire point of the original post.



The irony, indeed. You should really stop doing it if it bothers you so much.



No, Muj. The travesty I spoke of was the fact that so few people actually knew the term "Buttersheep". If I wanted to call out a player, I'd call them out. I've made my fair share of mistakes and so I'm not saying I'm any better. I was just paying homage to one of the more entertaining posters, GrumpyWookie, and making sure that everyone knew it was him that coined the phrase "Buttersheep". He was Galka, after all, and we have to look out for each other. Admittedly my post may have been a little crass toward the end, but I was still kind of frustrated that I didn't get a lot accomplished that day. But I assure you, it's pretty low-key compared to what I could have written.

But I see in your haste to judge me you completely missed the point and made yourself sound like an ***. Nice job. Now go back to stroking your 12-year-old sized e-peen or whatever you called it.

Edit: Speaking of e-peen, Muj. Nice sig.

Edited, Apr 20th 2007 10:06am by GalkaAnimal

All this over a WAR/WHM?

Unless you're a Taru war/whm at low lvl's is just stupid. As an elvaan I know that I would have no real MP pool to work with so why bother? If you need healing that badly in your party, the extra 40-50hp you might be able to get(if you dont get hit that is) probably won't do you much good.

Whatever...because of this, I will now /cheer and /salute all Buttersheeps I come across henceforth. Actually, I usually do that anyway, praise people for being new and ignorant of typical ffxi concepts. That **** was fun when I was so ridiculously new, and I miss the feeling of thinking that dual wielding swords in Yuhtunga was a good idea. Whatever the primary intention of this thread was, I will now cheer on every WAR/WHM I see.

Dear Codyy da Basher,

I'm glad I now have your permission to stop playing with people who minimize their efficiency and role in an experience pt. Heavens, no! A WAR/WHM doesn't want to pt with me? How ever will I get by? I guess I'll have to stick with those lame WAR/NINs or WAR/MNKs or any other WAR who actually chooses to be useful in a pt.

You don't like the tone of my thread? Don't read it. Yes, it really is that simple.

Oh, and let me praise you for that whole "Take a brick and shove it" comment. I mean, it really added so much to the argument and made an eloquent point. Very intelligent, thought-provoking, and well written. I will consider your words carefully.

Thank you, and have a nice day yourself.

meh... Im just posting to add this travisty to the list... lvl 50 party... taking forever to kill... then I realize dude the war is 49war/15nin.
/tell party leader You know your war has very gimped sub?
/tell Mattea yeah he's broke and can't level it
/tell party leader ... so we all have to suffer?


is there ever a good reason why someone should be allowed in a party with a sub that's not full leveled? I can see 1 maybe 2 levels but a whopping 10??


/breaksoapboxandfeelbetterforranting