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#1 Oct 01 2006 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
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After finding out I was gonna have to be up most of the night i decided i'd take the night to level war. I put my flag up and 2 seconds later a whm and a bard both ask me to join their pt. I decided to join their pt even though 2 nights before they had "coincidentally" d/cd at the same time and never came back just as the bard had pulled. the bard claimed it was a legit d/c so I gave them the benefit of the doubt and went ahead and accepted the invite.

Long and behold the brd wanted to go to bibiki and we did. We get there and start partying and get into one of those marathon chain parties that was nothing short of amazing considering we were in bibiki. We got chain 8 twice chain 7 a few times, and so on.

After about 3 hours the brd gets pull crazy and brings more mobs to camp than we could handle, or than she could keep slept, the whm ran out of mp the tank died and little by little we started to go down, when i started to go down i ask the whm to make sure he has re-raise on and he tells me he has no mp. So i then ask the brd to get the attention of the mobs and pull them away far enough so that the whm can heal up just enough mp to rr. the brd manages to get hate and does a good job to pull the mobs away but the whm runs into aggro and dies.

So there we were all dead and whm had no rr on. Not the first time, definitely not the last time this will happen, as a matter of fact it can be almost common to happen from time to time. The whm then HP's and tells everybody to HP with him because he felt it was unfair for him to lose exp while the rest of us would be getting r2's. So the brd tells him to suck it up and that we would get the exp back for him but he still keeps up with his little tantrum.

Not knowing the group well I then asked, (just to make sure), if the whm was serious about not wanting to raise people, and he confirmed that he was indeed serious. Then he changes his mind but decides that he's going to give r2 to 2 of us and r1 to the others.

I waited for the whm to get back to camp to see if he was really serious about not giving r2's to everybody and sure enough, he gives his ls mate an r2 then looks at me and gives me an r1. Not feeling very at home in the role of red-headed step child I refuse the r1 hp and disband.

Now I dont blame the whm for not having his RR up, it was a fast moving pt that was man-handling the mobs around, but to react this way to a death where he lost ~2300exp (which in 2 chains he woulda had back) just seems ridiculous to me. I can't imagine what's gonna happen when he reaches any type of end-game activity where he'll be dying repeatedly I mean if one death in the middle of a party that was rocking shook him up this bad, dynamis might give this guy a heart attack.

I intentionally left the names of people out because I didn't post this to try to start any beefs with any of these people but merely to get it off my chest.

#2 Oct 01 2006 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
lol, people are so up tight about xp nowadays, hey aleast you didnt have to wait 40mins for a raise because some idiot didnt want to lose 200xp in the dunes.
#3 Oct 01 2006 at 4:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Ewww, what is happening to my bretheren WHMs. @_@
#4 Oct 01 2006 at 4:35 PM Rating: Decent
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That should be a lesson to use Reraise all the time as White Mage regardless of situation. The Bard is somewhat unskilled, and a good Bard can keep up to 1-2 adds slept (of course you do not pull when there are things waiting).

I am not sure if I would HP in that case, but definetly will have a little temper not swallowed. I think people need to relax. I however hate the altitude that "if I do not get any better, you do not get any too." That is like zero-sum game, which ends with no winner. In fact the White Mage was ended up a loser because that makes him like an ***.

Sometimes it is bad to be overly concern who gets the better or obessed in not being the "end loser" or "martyl". It is just a game, just go out and have fun. The altitude of that White Mage, and "I got a Ridill, you suck!" "WTF you camp against me gil buyer (botter)" needs to stop.

There are people that you will not like in the game, but sometimes just let it go , ignore that guy, and move on is better. Remembering fights or obessed to determine who is the "bad guy", what good does it do? Also I avoid being the bad guy, or to team up or deal with "bad guys."

Edited, Oct 1st 2006 at 5:44pm PDT by scchan
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#5 Oct 01 2006 at 10:33 PM Rating: Decent
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I would have homepointed and disbanded plain and simple.
#6 Oct 02 2006 at 2:07 AM Rating: Good
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I couldn't agree more, if that WHM is gonna be a prick like that than I'd disband and LFG, not hard to find a PT on WAR at all.
#7 Oct 02 2006 at 5:10 AM Rating: Decent
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What I would have done in that situation if I was leader was kick the WHM and find another, or a RDM, SMN that's willing. If people want R2s and wont accept an R1, then I guess a PT disband is fine too. Even so, a WHM should not deny thier PT members proper raises.

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There are people that you will not like in the game, but sometimes just let it go , ignore that guy, and move on is better. Remembering fights or obessed to determine who is the "bad guy", what good does it do? Also I avoid being the bad guy, or to team up or deal with "bad guys."


That's why players like me exist. I'll be an @#%^ for you because it suits me. :P. To nice to call someone a Richard, no problem, I'll say it for you. >:D



Edited, Oct 2nd 2006 at 6:14am PDT by Zaleshea
#8 Oct 02 2006 at 6:17 AM Rating: Decent
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I try not to get angry easily in the game, but people who had been in Nihl recently know I not neccessary have a good temper sometimes.

Realistically, RI and II difference now is 600 exp at 75. I am willing to take any raise if there are little other option. That WHM was a prick, but it is also a prick now to demand RII or higher when your PT has no WHM. If you don't bring your own RR item or WHM, it is really no one fault for you eating R1. And don't bring up that I will delevel excuse. One ENM event is enough to get you a buffer for 2+ R1s at 75. And if you insist doing events that you may die and never go exp for a buffer... it was no one's fault. If you cannot find time even to get a buffer except doing events, I think you are too busy and too rubbish "fei 廃", and you may want to change your style of the play. I tried never show up for events with no one I can take care of myself to a reasonable degree.

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#9 Oct 02 2006 at 6:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Please don't misunderstand, I don't think the important factor is the raise 1 or raise 2, but rather the attitude. There are plenty of times where I will take a r1 or no raise at all and keep truckin like a trooper, if the attitude is right.
#10 Oct 02 2006 at 6:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Please don't misunderstand, I don't think the important factor is the raise 1 or raise 2, but rather the attitude. There are plenty of times where I will take a r1 or no raise at all and keep truckin like a trooper, if the attitude is right.


It is good to see people think more like that. You don't want to know how many times I got begged to do R2 and 3 in large distances when they got a Raise themselves. Or people not willing to take R1 or 2 in events even the situation calls for quick recovery.
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#11 Oct 04 2006 at 1:47 PM Rating: Decent
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scchan wrote:


Where's the pancake :o?



I'm not doing that anymore.
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