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#52 Nov 16 2005 at 8:35 AM Rating: Decent
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You're not allowed to revert to anti-social, Nyru. It took us too long to break you out of that shell.

The best suggestion I can make is to take a pt of mostly LS members or friends. Not only should the exp be better, but you'll most likely have more fun while getting it.
#53 Nov 16 2005 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
Thank you for your kind words. I know they are sincere.

If absence makes the heart grow fonder, perhaps some time lvlg my BST will bring me back to my senses.
#54 Nov 17 2005 at 12:53 AM Rating: Decent
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#55 Nov 17 2005 at 1:38 AM Rating: Decent
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^Well then go **** yourself.
#56 Nov 17 2005 at 9:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Nyruu, I'd like to disagree with your attitude towards "kids". Being a highschooler myself, I am none of the things you say kids are. I have never bought and will never buy gil. I don't play 6 hours a day. I don't level fast. I only call my friends n00bs, and I most definitely do not MPK. I may be immature sometimes, but people never outgrow that (your parents stole your Halloween candy ya know). In all honestly, older people's opinions of highschoolers is very much like the world's opinion of the US government, the vocal, obnoxious, stupid 10% make everyboday else look bad. For every idiot spoiled child you see in RL or pn TV, there are many, many others who have been raised right Believe it or not, you've probably met many younger people like me in game and have not even realized it. If you feel the urge, give me the names of those people, and I'll yell at them for being a$$holes and confirming the negative stereotypes about young people.
I'm sorry to make this a rant, I'm really not angry at you. But going to public school in a fair size town (big enough to have a ghetto), and hearing from my Catholic School and suburban school buddies "Oh noes, _________ Central! You must see fights and [crap] every day!" and from my parents friends "You teenagers have no respect for yourselves or anything else!" every day, I'm tired of the crap.

For those of you who don't want to read the above: Some highschoolers are idiots yes, but not all are. Now that I've admitted that I'm a "young'un" I look forward to not having any of my posts taken seriously ever again.

/rant off
#57 Nov 18 2005 at 7:25 AM Rating: Decent
Congrats Kain--welcome to the few and far between. I gave an out for those who choose to take it, and you did.

Everywhere we go each day, in all aspects of our lives, we must deal with people we do not enjoy being around. That is merely an undesirable side effect of something wonderful--human individuality. I would never in my wildest dreams wish that everyone would be/think/see things the same.

When I come home at night, and close my front door, my world is my own. I play this game as recreation, nothing more. I have made many friends during my gaming time, and plan on making many more. And you are correct, it is the bad apples that make a negative name for the rest. I have simply had my fill of bad apples. This last round of isolationism on my part stems from everyone trying to tell me how my $12.95/mo should best be spent, among other things. I enjoy this game, and I refuse to give it up because of kids enjoying power in their lives for the first time or getting to talk vulgar w/o their parents hearing, or whatever the scenario may be. I shouldn't have to be defensive and/or try to not be offended every single time I attempt to recreate. I have been driven underground, so to speak. I can still be found, you will just have to go to some out-of-the-way places to find me.

I am aware of the young people in this game that I have interacted with. Just about every time I am in a group setting someone shows their age, and not in a bad way. I usually keep quiet about myself in most cases. I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable thinking that "their mom is playing the game with them". In one of my last ptys we had a player have to go afk abrubtly. He explained later it was past "lights out" and he had heard his mom coming up the stairs. The only reaction he got out of me was a chuckle. We continued on and had a great time lvlg up.

I am not anti kid. I am just anti a--hole. Unfortunately for you, Kain, the a--holes usually turn out to be kids.

Edited, Fri Nov 18 08:43:58 2005 by Nyruu
#58 Nov 18 2005 at 8:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow... Kain I could jump all over that but I'll be nice.
#59 Nov 18 2005 at 2:25 PM Rating: Good
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A lot of times, people forget that this is just a game. A game each and every one of us pay for. Those of us who play with caution, perserverance, rationability and a respect for others tend to come out on top in this game.

Being inconsiderate can be an array of things. For instance, there are some players who feel that "checking or examining" gear is inconsiderate.

However, there is something that should be addressed. Partying.

When you party or setup a party, be aware that it takes time. Sometimes you can put together a "pt" in a little bit and sometimes it can take a {Long Time.}

Don't pt if you know you are going to be leaving soon.
Look for your own replacement.
Bring your own food, silent oils, prism powders.
Wear decent gear.


Pt is a strategy, it becomes a hassle and it is inconsiderate to carry a person through the experience.

If you even have a thought in your head that this is ok to do, I can assure you that by the time you get to the point in the game where you need help with particular items, and events. People will know you and not help you.

You will be remembered more if you are kind, generous, always willing to help others. In the long run, you can only benefit from such acts. (There are boundaries of course, we can't help people 24/7.)


Childish Antics.

/Sigh

Haven't we all experienced that one person who just made you want to throw your contoller down, stomp on it, and scream? I know I have.
/Blist is your best friend.
I learned real quick, trying to talk common sense into that person only makes them retaliate more and more toxic spew will flow from their mouths.

I've met 25+ yr olds that were just as bad as some teenagers.
The only thing to be done: Be the better person and move on.

Goodluck with your experiences in Vana'diel! Many bright adventures to you.


#60 Nov 21 2005 at 7:05 AM Rating: Decent
Rate up Avela!! Wonderful post :)

And thank you for the kind words :)
#61 Nov 21 2005 at 9:18 AM Rating: Decent
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A lot in the game will improve when people understand that by helping others, you are helping yourself too.

One thing that irks mean a lot is long and unexpected AFK and GTGs. There are certain situations that are unavoidabe that you have to go AFK or GTG. But you know there is a scheduled event in game or in RL, try not to PT or join groups that will make everyone wait for you.

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Childish Antics.

/Sigh

Haven't we all experienced that one person who just made you want to throw your contoller down, stomp on it, and scream? I know I have.
/Blist is your best friend.
I learned real quick, trying to talk common sense into that person only makes them retaliate more and more toxic spew will flow from their mouths.


Sometimes people do get bad days, and that reflects in the game behavior. So I usually do not resort to blacklist unless it is really needed to do so.

Sometimes it is best also not taking others too personally in the game. If you do not like someone, just avoid or blacklist them. Getting too personal and argue on senseless stuff online is nothing more than comparing E-pe***s (excuse my language @.@, can't find a better word to get my idea across) size.

If someone does not want to be bothered or has something done on them, just do not do it. Do not claim "the check command is there so you can use it on anyone" or "spamming /sh is a right", it is also someone else right to blacklist you.
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#62 Nov 21 2005 at 5:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Look man just say *****. It's not going to kill you. It's a freaking body part. I could see if you wanted to use the rude equivalant of it.

Nryuu - I consider you VERY lucky. If kids are the only kinds of ******** you deal with. Then that's not a biggy. The ones I have dealt with were in my age group. That's right - 20+. And EVEN those 25+.

Age is only a number. Maturity does not begin when you've reached your prime. So just so you know..it's not heaven in any other age group.
#63 Nov 22 2005 at 8:47 AM Rating: Good
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I have had to deal with alot of inconsiderateness, immaturity, and people, in general, not acting their age. Luckily, I am slick like oil, and just let it slide right off. Forgeting someone who is immature is alot easier then trying to help them, most times they don't want to admit they are acting childish and/or not thinking straight. I just allow them to go inflict themselves on someone else.
#64 Nov 22 2005 at 9:34 AM Rating: Decent
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scchan, King of Bards wrote:

Sometimes people do get bad days, and that reflects in the game behavior. So I usually do not resort to blacklist unless it is really needed to do so.



If I get annoyed to the point I want to blist I'll do it, but I tend to remove the person before logging, just in case it was a bad day.

I really don't mind when people start with me, most can't hang in a verbal altercation with me anyway. You curse, you lose.

Edited, Tue Nov 22 09:35:41 2005 by KMannKD
#65 Nov 23 2005 at 12:22 AM Rating: Decent
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funny, i haven't found a need for /blist yet.
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