Rogue in arenaFollow

So I am working on my rogue right now, got him up to level 83. I am levelling him as muti so I can get used to the spec for doing PVE with it at the cap.

I am also planning on doing some arena when I get to 85. i will be doing 3v3 with a resto druid and a hunter. Am I going to be speccing Sub or would another spec work best with this comp?

Also, what do I use as my CP generator if I do spec sub, Hemo or Backstab?

Oh god no, not combat.

You're looking at this this or this spec, using BS as your main combo point generator.

There are a lot of other variations, and your glyphs can vary greatly. The glyphs and spec I used is this.

You can remove Imp Recup if you won't ever get focused, but a lot of the time teams will focus rogues to get them to pop cooldowns, so...

Edit: if you're running DHR, you're going to need to peel a lot for your hunter unless your hunter is completely pro. You may want to consider the Crippling Poison major glyph, or else keep Shiv in a spot you can get to it easily. I doubt you'll get focused a lot in the comp, so I probably wouldn't run Quickening, though I'd keep Imp Recup (more healing and damage reduction) to help your druid.

Also, watch this video. More rogues need to know how to peel, since 99% suck at it.

Edited, Apr 3rd 2011 7:48pm by Theophany

I stand corrected, I was looking at imp. sprint and how good that would be, but comparing the specs you linked to mine I can see why I'm wrong. I've probably been losing a lot of damage.
Thanks

Peel for the hunter too, a hunter who can unleash his damage is scary, a hunter who gets stuck in melee is hardly more than a training dummy.


Mostly just practice I guess, do lots of BG's and soon enough you'll be running circles around the weaker players while typing /lol and /tickle nonstop.

I think your main difficulty in playing HDR is coordinating CC's. With traps, scatter, cyclone, blind, gouge, roots, pin, stuns and smoke bomb you have a crapload of CC options and using them well equals winning.

Throwing them on a mage iceblocking is always a good idea, especially since you can't dispel iceblock.

I really suggest running the spec and glyphs I have in the last link I posted.

You won't be peeling for your druid very much until you get into the 2200s if your druid is good at resto, far more often you'll be peeling for your hunter, as they lack the kind of outs that a druid has (you may have to peel if your druid is in roots, i.e. about to get shattered by a mage).

You'll find that in arena, it's much easier to burn through your energy and get BSs in, as most of the time melee will be going for your hunter or your druid. That said, try to always be behind someone. It's not too hard once you get used to it.


Smoke Bomb affects EVERYONE inside the SB. Can't target into or out of it, meaning that they can't get healed. There's also currently a bug (maybe they've fixed it) where rogue openers don't work in a SB, so if the other team has a rogue and they're going to open on you, you can toss a SB and they'll just pop out of stealth without using their opener.

Peeling really isn't that hard, but the best way to practice is to do BGs/TB with a healer and when melee go for your healer, use your peels and see how long you both can survive.

Feyras and I did that all the time, and it was great fun. Also, I might suggest that you change the Sprint glyph to a Prep glyph, so you can Smoke Bomb/Dismantle twice in a short time (especially useful in arena).

Eh, it's really not that much when you consider that you never have to buy them again.

Inscription makes a truckload of gold, but the bonuses aren't great for pvp. I have herb/scribing on an alt (tauren) DK with On a Pale Horse so he can spend half an hour a week zooming around the river in uldum and making literally thousands of gold selling glyphs for 150G+ each.

It took me about a fortnight of BGs to get used to Sub at 85 honestly, it can be...interesting to deal with positional requirements. And getting used to shadowstep is hard even when you bind it you'll run through people a lot of lose your sense of direction. A few things to consider:

In BGs you will often open with garrote because you'll find people dismounted fairly often (already engaged in combat). In arena matches, the person you sap is often not the guy you'll be opening on. So you almost always have to cheap shot just to get your damage in cause they'll be mounted and running around. If you do garrote at some point, shiv straight after to apply crippling, it makes the positional requirement a breeze to deal with.

Speaking of which, poisons are MH wound/mind numbing, OH Crippling, thrown crippling for fan of snare. I almost exclusively use mind-numbing, it is amazing because chances are you'll be on a caster at some point in the match and that debuff is incredibly noticable. It also slows hunter cobra and steady shot by 30% and as a bonus helps make your kicks easier. Utterly overpowered in every way, and you should be abusing it.

I spec and glyph like this. Yeah, it's super defensive but i pretty much only do 2v2 double dps. You should probably drop cheat death for 2/2nightstalker or 3/3 HaT and 2 more points in assassination for 3/3 puncturing wounds.

Always hemo once after opening to get the +10% damage bonus from bleeds (not required with a garrots opener obviously). How you open depends on the situation. If you're in a really really good one (kill target in a bad position far from a pillar, at least one person cced) and you think you can get a kill, you can open with garrote > shiv and a 5pt kidney shot then drop smokebomb (or 5pt evis if you opened with cheap shot). Otherwise get recup up and running asap.

Always always get crippling up, not just to peel off your hunter. If you catch someone in the middle of nagrand with a 70% snare and your hunter on them they are in seriously deep ****.

Yeah, what you just described is the way you run pretty much every double DPS as a sub rogue; have you and your partner pressure the healer and get their DPS to blow their trinket, then switch with 5 CP: blind healer > redirect > KS > ShD > ambushes > smoke bomb > dead.

If you need to, vanish focus ShS to the healer and garrote and sit on them to kick any big heals while your partner finishes off their partner.