binding heal vs flash heal - thoughts?Follow

You've funnily enough answered your own question. Binding Heal is the better heal. Assuming it actually heals both your target and you. After which you can logically conclude that Binding Heal should be used when you can get it's full effect, but for the instances in which this isn't the case (and this is more often than not), you'll want to use Flash Heal

I acturaly use Binding heal a lot in ICC. Marrow I use it during his Bone Storm so I can heal myself and the dps/tanks at the same time (Not as much now that everyone knows the fight better, then when it first came out). And during Stinky and Precious I use Binding heal to quickly get myself and the tank back to full.

Honestly, I don't even worry about Grace anymore. PW:S is so much superior in throughput to anything else (apart from a Prayer of Mending that jumps more than once, and a Penance that doesn't overheal for much) that it's pretty much just shielding when possible. Plus, it gives me insane mana regeneration. <3


Binding Heal is great, but once again I find myself using it very little because everyone seems to either be topped off or triage demands that I focus less on me and more on others. I should probably use it a little more.



So yeah, Binding Heal is good if you can afford to have your heal go off at the end of a GCD and need a bit of healing yourself. If you really don't ever experience any mana problems, it might actually be a viable option in more situations, it can proc Divine Aegis on you, as well, after all.


Another thing that is unrelated to your question, but you use Greater Heal in ICC? Really? The spreadsheet tells me that you need to stack quite a bit of haste (more than you should have as Disc as it gets quite worthless really quickly) to make it come close to your other spells in HPET efficiency even with Divine Fury.
I don't even know my Clique binding for it off the top of my head.


Also, am I the only one who runs out of mana on fights like Valithria heroic (on raid healing duty)?


Edit: Actually gonna add a couple of things. Firstly, Binding Heal has the same spell power coefficient as Flash Heal. That means that it will always heal for more than Flash heal, but as you gather more spell power, the gap will close, sort of.

Secondly, I've had some trouble about Grace. Couldn't find data mining on this, so does anyone know if it increases the healing of the PW:S and Dispel Magic glyphs, too?

Edited, Jul 4th 2010 11:38pm by Kalivha

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What you want to do as Disc when you see a tank going down and feel the need to do something is cast Penance (if available) and Prayer of Mending (if it makes sense strategically, if it's likely to jump to the tank from its current target in a matter of 1-2 seconds, it does not). If it looks really bad, use Pain Suppression. Greater Heal takes ages to cast, by the time it actually hits the target it's likely to be 80% overheal. Parse some logs and look at it. Greater Heal is, coupled with that, very low HPET (or HPS if you will), meaning for the 3 second cast time (maybe 2 or whatever with gear, talents and raid buffs) you get out very little healing.

Seriously, tanks are always back up by the time my second Penance tick hits if I decide to ProM>Penance, so that's about 1.6 seconds or so. When that happens, you should actually cancel your GHeal like we used to in TBC.


Anyway, if you give me your stats as of now, I can tell you exactly how ineffective GHeal is both HPS and mana wise, for your gear. Compared to most of your major other spells.

Quick bit of maths with my own gear: The average GHeal for me unbuffed (including possible Divine Aegis) heals for 13250-ish. In the same time period, I can get a Prayer of Mending that hits for ~5.4k and 2 ticks of Penance at an average of 4.6k each off. That's 14600, a ~10% increase in healing done! Additionally, the Penance will give more stacks of Grace and a higher chance to get Inspiration going and the Prayer of Mending can heal its next target in some scenarios.
2x Flash Heal will heal for about the same amount as 1x Gheal, cost about the same amount of mana, a bit less if you have it fully talented and again you will gain more stacks of Grace and again a higher chance to proc Inspiration.

Another problem with it and part of the reason why I'd always prefer ProM and Penance or 2xFHeal is that the heal of GHeal lands at the end of the cast. That reduces the time you have between seeing someone's health drop and starting casting if you want to not waste time till they're topped off again.


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