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#1 Jun 01 2010 at 9:22 PM Rating: Default
First off here is my armory. I saw just before posting this that one of my glyphs is horribly wrong. Im not even sure how it got there. I havent looked at my glyphs since I first hit lvl 80. So my first question is; what glyphs should I be using?

Ive been upgrading my gear over the last couple weeks. Its been slow my play time is very limited. On a good day I get 4 instances in(random, FoS, PoS, and HoR). I havent raided since just after Ulduar came out, in fact I stopped playing my druid at that time. Despite my low play time I have finally managed to get 60 frost emblems. So heres my 2nd question; should I get myself the stam trinket the tank cape or my T10 gloves or shoulders?

My final and biggest issue is my threat, or lack of it. I dont seem to have problems with threat until I get into heroic halls of reflection. Maybe its my gear spec glyphs, or all three. I just cant seem to hold aggro on anything during the waves. My wifes 3k dps affliction warlock is even pulling aggro with SoC spam. Also I get killed in 1 shot at least once every day in there. Ive gone from 46k buffed hp to dead in one shot from 1 mob. Yet when I check the combat log theres nothing that even comes close to hitting me hard enough to drop me like that. Im not sure if its a bug or what, but its very frustrating. Does anyone else have these problems in this instance? Or am I doing something wrong? I spam maul and swipe throwing FFF on my main target along with Demo roar when ever its about to wear off. On top of that im constantly switching targets to taunt and I tab through the group putting mangle on everything I can. I use barkskin at the beginning of every wave when damage seems to be the heaviest. I blow SI whenever I drop below 10k hp. With all of this I still go through 5 to 6 healers before I finally get one that can keep me alive long enough to finish the instance. Please let me know where my major flaw is, or if im just cursed with the worst luck with healers.

Thanks for your wisdom advice and even your critisism.
#2 Jun 02 2010 at 10:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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Glyphs: Frenzied regen, survival instincts, growl, maul (choose 3 Smiley: wink)

Also, the +armor from items is usually the preferred meta. *shrugs*

It's hard to comment on your problems to much without being there, but I noticed your weapon is quite old. That could be part of the problem with threat generation. I know I had trouble with threat until I exchanged my old Naxx weapon for one from ICC.

Just my random thoughts, hopefully we'll see more bears around these parts soon...
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#3 Jun 02 2010 at 11:36 AM Rating: Good
Glyph of Rejuv? Smiley: dubious

Needs Austere Earthsiege Diamond for a meta, the defense rating on that one is kind of useless since you're naturally uncrittable. A little extra defense rating on your gear is okay but you don't ever have to budget it anywhere. Definitely try to steer clear of items with parry or block rating though, as those two stats *are* completely useless. Same with resilience (though the gladiator shoulder enchant is arguably still useful since it adds raw stamina instead of dodge/defense).

Threat is entirely a function of your weapon, keep working at a higher dps one and a good part of your threat will bump up with it. There's a polearm there in Halls of Reflection (Orca hunter's something iirc), or you can go run Trial of the Champion for Marrowstrike.

Edited, Jun 2nd 2010 1:36pm by Norellicus
#4 Jun 02 2010 at 12:26 PM Rating: Good
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Overlord Norellicus wrote:
(though the gladiator shoulder enchant is arguably still useful since it adds raw stamina instead of dodge/defense).


I use that one. More stam n all that junk.

Overlord Norellicus wrote:
Threat is entirely a function of your weapon, keep working at a higher dps one and a good part of your threat will bump up with it. There's a polearm there in Halls of Reflection (Orca hunter's something iirc), or you can go run Trial of the Champion for Marrowstrike.


Same goes for DPS classes about 90% of the time even casters as weapons have metric ***** tonnes of SP and other goodness.

Its just that weapons for 97% of other specs are easier to come by and when a good feral one drops some hunter will try and steal it 99% of the time.
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#5 Jun 02 2010 at 3:07 PM Rating: Default
Thanks for the responses.

Ill try again for the polearm from HoR, maybe this time Ill actually win the roll.. damn hunters and dks.

As for my meta, Im not sure where your getting defense rating from, unless your confusing my helm enchant with my meta. But either way I'll swap out the 32 stam and 2% magic damage reduction for the +armor from items. I just took the best gem my wife could make at that time. Our toons have been sitting dormant for almost a year and everything we have is totally outdated.

I think I figured out where the rejuv glyph came from. I think I changed specs for arena and added that glyph. I guess when I went back to tanking I must have missed changing it back out. It will be gone in a few minutes.

And lastly, the resil and parry/block on my items are strictly because they were the best item I could buy/get as a drop to upgrade from my old ilvl 200 gear. I dont think i can get anything better until my daughter is old enough to no longer need constant attention, but by then Cata should be out and Ill be regearing all over again.

Thanks again for the help, Im gonna go fix my glyphs and meta now.
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