...I can't dps anything for crap. In my adventures getting gear together to adequately tank heroics, I managed to secure probably every piece that doesn't have +hit on it, so I'm sitting somewhere around 135. I'm pretty sure this will be a problem.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackwing+Lair&cn=Tallus
Notes: (The armory hasn't updated since before making this post, so the following is based on what I see right now.)
-I have added Titanium Plating to my Shield and replaced the bracer enchant with +6 to all stats (since the def rating was going to waste.)
-Working on Sons of Hodir to get the better shoulder enchant. Also working on Argent Crusade for head enchant.
-I'm thinking I could replace my rings and Dark Moon trinket with stuff that has +hit but I'm having a hard time finding anything I can actually acquire (the trink is the only thing from my ret set that I haven't been able to replace with anything yet. I've been planning on getting The Black Heart but that still doesn't help with +hit.) I can swap the Woeful Band with the Bloodshed Band from my ret set, but I go from 547 Def to 542 (and I believe 545 is the target for raiding.) Still not even breaching 200 hit if I do it, though.
My server is pretty obnoxious about having the achievement and over 9000 GS to get in on even the most mundane of PUG daily raids, so I can't get on any (though I used to raid during BC on my lock)...and the earliest I can look at guild recruitment is April (work scheduling conflicts.)
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Don't worry too much about hit for right now.
Your talent spec is off a bit - definitely pick up Touched By the Light for extra threat. If you're looking to tank harder instances and raids, glyph Divine Plea. I'm personally a fan of picking up Vindication too, but know some may have a different idea.
535 is the required Defense to be uncrittable for heroics. 540 for raids. More defense isn't a bad thing (still adds avoidance) when it comes on gear, but you shouldn't seek it out.
In terms of gear:
A lot of your gear has upgrades in the regular versions of Frozen Halls - you can also run those as about many times as you want - no lockout period luckily.
Clutch of Fortification is by far the best tanking ring you'll find outside of raids. Get one and put +30 stamina on it. +40 stamina to bracers instead of +6 to stats. DMC: Berserker is pretty weak - you'd be better off with any tanking trinket really, though the Black Heart is your best pre-raid trinket.
Once you flesh out your Triumph gear a bit more, don't forget that you can trade Triumph emblems for Conquest emblems - a lot of the 226 stuff would be upgrades over what you have.
Good luck with tanking - I'll leave any playstyle suggestions to the experts.
Your talent spec is off a bit - definitely pick up Touched By the Light for extra threat. If you're looking to tank harder instances and raids, glyph Divine Plea. I'm personally a fan of picking up Vindication too, but know some may have a different idea.
535 is the required Defense to be uncrittable for heroics. 540 for raids. More defense isn't a bad thing (still adds avoidance) when it comes on gear, but you shouldn't seek it out.
In terms of gear:
A lot of your gear has upgrades in the regular versions of Frozen Halls - you can also run those as about many times as you want - no lockout period luckily.
Clutch of Fortification is by far the best tanking ring you'll find outside of raids. Get one and put +30 stamina on it. +40 stamina to bracers instead of +6 to stats. DMC: Berserker is pretty weak - you'd be better off with any tanking trinket really, though the Black Heart is your best pre-raid trinket.
Once you flesh out your Triumph gear a bit more, don't forget that you can trade Triumph emblems for Conquest emblems - a lot of the 226 stuff would be upgrades over what you have.
Good luck with tanking - I'll leave any playstyle suggestions to the experts.
Wouldn't I need the hit to effectively generate threat though? I was testing my rotations on the Heroic Dummy Boss and I was barely registering 1k dps. I know that as a tank I should be more worried about whether the mobs are on me or not, but I've long-feared the dreaded "can't hit so can't taunt" problem.
If not, would my current gear be good enough to run these instances as a tank? I'm not 100% sure on the Frozen Halls heroics anyway (and I just spent about 30 mins flipping between the WoWWiki loot tables and my armory to find the appropriate upgrades...only 3 come from the reg versions, 1 of which is a weapon, and there's 2 weapons in heroics I may get instead if they drop first.) Assuming I can tank at least HHoR (I'm not getting locked out for my rings, I guess because I have the reqs with Ret already,) would I be failing?
As for emblem gear...I'd all but forgotten about that ring. I saw it about 10 mins after I made my post, so I really wanting to farm for it. Same with the Dalaran Parapets bracers (60 emblems, fuuu-)
Thanks for the info, for sure! I'll have to que for these things specifically for a while then. I'll grab the Talent and Glyph as well...for some reason I coulda sworn I at least had the Glyph.
Edited, Feb 27th 2010 12:27pm by TallusRip
If not, would my current gear be good enough to run these instances as a tank? I'm not 100% sure on the Frozen Halls heroics anyway (and I just spent about 30 mins flipping between the WoWWiki loot tables and my armory to find the appropriate upgrades...only 3 come from the reg versions, 1 of which is a weapon, and there's 2 weapons in heroics I may get instead if they drop first.) Assuming I can tank at least HHoR (I'm not getting locked out for my rings, I guess because I have the reqs with Ret already,) would I be failing?
As for emblem gear...I'd all but forgotten about that ring. I saw it about 10 mins after I made my post, so I really wanting to farm for it. Same with the Dalaran Parapets bracers (60 emblems, fuuu-)
Thanks for the info, for sure! I'll have to que for these things specifically for a while then. I'll grab the Talent and Glyph as well...for some reason I coulda sworn I at least had the Glyph.
Edited, Feb 27th 2010 12:27pm by TallusRip
When you're attacking the dummy, you're by default mana starved and can't keep up a 9696 rotation. Specifically, you have no mana return from Blessing of Sanctuary or Spiritual Attunement
Go test it out on a dungeon mob - if you're doing less that 2k DPS, it's probably a matter of rotation.
Keep in mind that the melee hit CAP for a level 82 mob is actually 5% and the spell hit cap is only 6%. So even as is you should only miss 1% of moves against a level 82 (heroic boss) mob. The higher hit cap is a bigger issue for raids, but even there you can tank and tank well uncapped.
I'd personally want a little higher level gear before you hit Heroic HoR, though you *could* probably get away with it with a skilled group that was willing to use some CC. It would be difficult to say the least though.
Go test it out on a dungeon mob - if you're doing less that 2k DPS, it's probably a matter of rotation.
Keep in mind that the melee hit CAP for a level 82 mob is actually 5% and the spell hit cap is only 6%. So even as is you should only miss 1% of moves against a level 82 (heroic boss) mob. The higher hit cap is a bigger issue for raids, but even there you can tank and tank well uncapped.
TallusRip wrote:
Assuming I can tank at least HHoR (I'm not getting locked out for my rings, I guess because I have the reqs with Ret already,) would I be failing?
I'd personally want a little higher level gear before you hit Heroic HoR, though you *could* probably get away with it with a skilled group that was willing to use some CC. It would be difficult to say the least though.
Arighty...for now I'll try to squeeze in as ret and hope the tank doesn't need the drops lol
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