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You cant really put all the fault on the pally in this instance, since you basically admitted yourself you werent paying that much attention. Forgetting to apply righteous fury is a pretty big mistake, and for a tank it should be almost second nature to make sure its on.
This was right after the 3rd wipe because the idiot stood in a flamestrike and got killed. I was getting a bit pissed at this point, and forgot to click it on, after blowing 100% mana and grumbling about having to drink the 10th water this dungeon because of it. Blizzard Promised to make it so Righteous Fury wasn't supposed to wear off upon death, but it wears off when I die, every. stinking. time. Sometimes I just Forget to put it back on after a wipe. Especially if I'm swearing away at this idiot.
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OK is a difficult instance for a paladin healer. The spiders have an AoE poison that does a significant amount of damage if not cleansed off.
Which Reminds me: I was doing 90% of the Cleansing. Thanks for reminding me of that. Yes, me, the tank doing half of the healer's job. Imagine that.....
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The packs before Jegoda have corruptions, curse of tongues and flamestrikes, as well as the elementals that fireball, frostbolt and lightning bolt whomever they want. You cant be sure dps werent standing in flamestrikes.
DPS are supposed to be whacking away at the mob if they are melee; which all but one were in this group. I was moving out of flamestrikes myself, so... if they were standing in flamestrikes, then they weren't up with the mob, swinging at them as they should have been. The warlock in the group, maybe... that's still fail. Okay, so maybe not ALL of the fail was the healer's.
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I myself have 38k+ mana unbuffed, and even i have had trouble at certain spots in that instance with a medicorely geared tank and less than intelligent dps. A well timed cure of tongues + flamestrikes can do a significant amount of damage to a group if you arent prepared for it. Not to mention a majority of the damage in that instance is Spell based, so your mitigation stats do nothing to prevent it.
Paladins have three resist auras: Shadow, Fire, and Frost. I was using mine, the Holy Paladin had Devotion on fulltime. Nevermind that MY Devotion was stronger than his, due to a talent in my talent tree. Even when I had Devotion on, he kept his Devotion up.
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If a healer is going oom, as frustrating as it is, you need to wait for them. Everyone moves at their own pace, and as frustrating as it is to be in an instance for 20 minutes, its even more frustrating dying over and over because you are trying to rush things. Learn a little bit more about paladin healing and maybe you can help the next guy out by taking a look at his recount healing. It can provide a huge amount of information about what he is or isnt doing correctly.
He was going 'mana' after every stinking trash pull. He would literally go from 100% down to 50% every trash pull, EVEN the trash pull with the 3 bugs, EVEN with me saving my Avenger's Shield and Hammer of the Righteous for stopping Shadow Blasts. Even with me cleansing 3 out of 5 poisons.
I've never played Holy before; I'm Ret/Prot.. one thing I DON'T want to do, is try to school someone on something I've never done myself. Though if I keep seeing fail Holy healers, then I might have to start reading some guides or something. Usually, holy paladins are pretty good, I still don't know what the heck was wrong with this guy.
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And like many people have said before, 26k mana is laughable at this point in time. Im struggling to break 40k unbuffed currently, and looking at the gear in ICC HMs im not sure if ill make it there :(.
I must not have the kind of luck you guys do, when I see a healer with 25k+ mana, I consider that "good" because I'm used to seeing healers in the 18-22k range. Every now and then I'll get an uber healer with Tot(G)Cr stuff on, but... that seems rare to me. Probably because I do heroics on weird off-hours, when the main raiding crowd ain't doing anything like that. I get all of the raiding rejects (not saying that in an offensive way) that can't raid because of their online schedules (similar to my own boat, actually).
Edited, Jan 31st 2010 7:06pm by Zariamnk