Question about H ToCFollow

I have been doing well in the heroics that I have been doing thanks to the communities help and advice that I have recieved. What are the requirements that people are looking for in a tank when they are looking for a tank. Just don't want to jump in there and ruin everyones chances for that heroic for the day. This is my Char http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Arathor&n=Landestus. My gear is still a work in progress but I have never seen anything that states what the criteria is for certian content. Hopefully I linked that one correctly. I got turned down for one Heroic instance here lately because they said my HP was not high enough for Heroic content, (Shrug, who knows lol). Thank you for the help in advance everyone here is great with the advice

Almost 30k and you got turned down for a Heroic run?? ... /facepalm

This is just another case of that elitist attitude where if you're not as geared as the people looking then you are undergeared (not taking a stab at progression guilds or anybody specifically, just everyone with that attitude in general).

Now that my mini-rant is over: in my experience most people only look at your health when determining if you are "good enough" for them, speaking to Heroics here. For any raiding they'll usually Armory you, inspect you if they're close enough, or ask what your "gear score" is. I got asked that for the first tiem yesterday and didn't know what they meant >.> Most people mistakenly translate your health to whether or not you are a good tank. My health is a little lower than other tanks or similar, sometimes even lower quality gear, but I only have 1 stam trinket and didn't gem exclusively for stam. The thing is I can handle most, if not every, encounter better than many tanks out there.

My advice is just don't get discouraged, and keep looking for anything you feel you can handle. Your gear is more than fine for any Heroic out there, even ToC, as long as you have the skill to back it up.

You might want to take a look at wow-heroes.com. Enter your realm and character information and update to see what your gear score and enchant scores are. It also lists a linear line with the 10-man (top) and 25-man (bottom) dungeons that you should consider easy, medium and hard for your current gear. Heroics are an included "dungeon" if that is where you are at.

It shows how many gems and the quality of them you have, the number of badges you've earned and raid achievements as well.

It will also show all of your gear, gems and enchants and suggest updgrades for each, as applicable.

Finally, at the bottom it shows your melee/spell/abilities stats.

You can also look up entire guilds via the tabs at the top of the page.

The information displayed comes from wowarmory.com, but the scores are from their own process. Upgrades are from wowhead I think. It will show each spec, if dual spec'd, but only one at a time and shows the gear that you last logged out with for each spec.

This is the site many people use to check gear scores, right or wrong. Either way, it gives you a hint.

You can also get the rawr application, it is linked somewhere in the Pally threads, and it shows what gear is best for you and with which gems and which buffs you would have in a group/raid. It will also show upgrades, from which you can figure out where you should go to get new gear.

rawr is good. I have it as well, but I do caution you to use it as a guideline, not gospel. It does occasionally suggest some changes I think are a bit, well, odd, so just keep that in mind before you go out spending a bunch of money redoing your gear because it said so ;)

I queued up in lfg as a healer/tank for ToC. I got a whisper from a hunter asking me to tank it. I said okay and joined up with a group of 2x 79s and 2x 80s. Turns out I had queued up for regular instead of heroic (damn default setting). I figured what the hell, I'll run through and maybe some gear will drop for the others. As soon as this following party conversation started by the group-leader-79 hunter I knew I was in for a treat.
Hunter: "Are you a tank this?
Me: "Yes, I'm tanking."
Hunter: "Why do you only have 18k hp?"
Me(puzzled for a second: "Well, a few months ago, Blizzard came out with dual specs..."
Hunter: "Oh, because I've seen tanks that have had almost 31k hit points"
-I switch specs from holy to tank with 33k unbuffed-
Me: "Is this better for you?"
Hunter: "Okay, we're good!"

This triggered me to actually check a little more into who I was partied with. I inspected the hunter and found 3 pieces that had either +spellpower or +intellect. After mousing over the 79 paladin healer with 12k hp and barely 13k mana I thought we were screwed. Our saving grace, along with getting Eadric was probably that me and an 80 warrior(must have queued up wrong as well) pushed out over 5k dps. Our little hunter friend? 432 dps on champs, 962 dps on Eadric, 867 on Black Knight.

Don't feel bad if you get turned down for Heroics, some people are just plan ****** You're probably better off not grouping with them. I've developed a saying recently; if you give a kid epic gear, he is still just a kid. Just learn your class and play well. That usually trumps having better stats.

I can do about 1K dps as Holy while healing (on undead).

I think the point about bringing the hunter's dps into question was that the hunter had a few numbers in his head about what was 'good' without understanding the mechanics of why, leading him to not know what abilities of his own to use to maximize (or at least increase) dps.