Urge to strangle rising - Prot Paladin healersFollow

Yes its nifty in PvP, and yes you can get 11k FoL heals.

But it's a gimmick and the healing output (despite the misleading big fol crits) is terrible, like absolute trash, I did more hps in my SWP gear at 70, or blue gear at 80.

/facepalm

It's less about healing and more about having better CC. The 20 second hammer CDe and the interupt/3s silence are what the spec is supposed to be designed around, better CC to setup kills in arena.


Healing output of all PVP specs is lower then the optimal spec but you make some tradeoffs to pick up some CC or interupt mitigation or whatever else. It's the least popular of the 3 arena specs at least, more then twice as many play either 34/0/37 or 52/19/0 even in 2s. And you'd probably never see this spec in 3s or 5s. It is a gimmick spec but I guess the idea is help your teammate out with a CC chain then land a silence and teammate has a long window for a finisher.

Sounds like Bohdi is encountering people who normally pvp can't be bothered respeccing for pve. I hate how popular this is, especially since i play double dps in 2s and it's basically tailored to take my sh*t apart. You're fighting a pally healer with more hp than an arms warrior. They're impossible to burst down, more so than a hotted resto druid, or a priest with all their cooldowns (ardent defender? As soon as the pallies' hp drops they get an automatic pain supression).

I'm guessing that lacking the mana efficiency stuff in deep holy they aren't going to do well in a prolonged fight against another healer team.

Edited, Jun 2nd 2009 11:59am by ArtemisEnteri

Lay of Hands is the most powerful Insta-Heal in the game. It's one time use, granted, but "No Instant Heals" isn't 100% true.



Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 9:33am by Borsuk

...and then spit on you and dance on your dead body.


Longevity > Big Heals

It doesn't matter how big your heals are if you can only keep it going for a minute or two.

I would much rather end an encounter with everyone alive and my mana pool greater than 0. Than top the "OMG BIGGEST HEAL" meter.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 4:44pm by ekaterinodar

You can seriously kite them until Divine Plea wears off and then just burn their mana down. Prot pallies have like, what...6k?

You can't run around meleeing and heal at the same time. It's a stupid-*** spec.

15000 mana roughly, maybe a little more if they have a mix of very high tier pve and pvp stuff. The idea of kiting a prot healer around so they can't hit you doesn't really work. All they have to do is melee something, anything (a bloodworm, pet, totem etc etc) and divine plea will be refreshed. Even if it drops off, it's on a measly minute cooldown and there's very likely a DK snaring your *** in one of a variety of ways. Did i mention the deep prot talent which grants it 100% dispell resistence?

And these healers are in high stamina pvp gear with +stamina talents so they have upwards of 26k health, and all that stamina due to another interesting deep prot talent is pushing their spellpower to maybe 2.5k. Add an extra 30% on crit heals and they can basically ignore the healing reduction from divine plea.

I don't want this to seem like i'm whining, it is after all a very shrewd way to play a pvp healer. I'm just pointing out how utterly insurmountable this kind of play is to a double dps team. It is very hard indeed to time silences and interrupts around bubble and aura mastery, and the prot tree gives vast longevity, and 6 second stun on a 20 sec cooldown. Not to mention Avenger's shield! A multiple target silence-snare or a single target nuke-silence-snare depending on glyphs.

Edited, Jun 5th 2009 1:47pm by ArtemisEnteri

I just can't picture running around with divine plea that often. I have fairly high spellpower gear as a holy paladin, my PVP gear is fairly solid as well (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Firetree&n=Celatha hopefully catch me in my PVP gear), but I just can't picture running around with divine plea up all the time. I can barely use it in a normal arena match. I have to time it with CC, which conviently lasts about 15 seconds max (fear into fear), but they break early all the time, get trinketed, dispelled, tremor totemed, etc.