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Well they nerfed Innervate as we all know.

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# Innervate: This ability has been redesigned to grant 450% of the casting Druid's base mana pool to the target over 20 seconds.

Well the nerf is mainly for when restos would self cast it as they have insane levels of Spirit.

The change is a boost for arena resto and also...

I can now use it Pallies and Shaman and actually have it do something.

I think I may like the change over all.

Opinions.

Yeah, it widens the use of Innervate. I personally like it because we mostly do 10 mans now and amongst our steadier healers we only have 1 Resto Druid and 1 off-spec Holy Priest, but something like 3 Pallies and 1-2 Resto Shammies.

As for regen, it's 15.7k, yeah.

Base mana pool for Druids at 80 is 3496, times 4.5, 15 732 mana regened.

I dunno how much it'd give to Resto Druids stacking Spirit in the past, but I think this is still pretty damn decent. Resto Druid in my guild has some pretty nice gear and has a total mana pool of 17.6k so it's nearly bringing him back to full.

Dunno if I'm missing something, but it's a good change in my opinion.

I personally think its amazing. It pushes more mana back to me as a boomkin now. As for using it as resto it's a little worse now but I shouldn't complain.

Ferals should be walking around with boners right now for arena purposes.

I like it as well but from what I have read for a decently geared resto druid it is a nerf.

Everyone else, buff. So I guess the OP is misleading but I hadn't had any coffee yet so wasn't very thinky yet.

As a feral who dropped Imp.LotP recently for more straight DPS talents, I can't wait to try this out. Even killing the 15 scourge for the tournament dailies has had me running low on mana from shifting and healing myself - unless I wait 10secs between mobs for stealth to come off cool-down and pounce everything.

Also, for that annoying time when you switch spec and your mana resets to zero :(

Pretty good post about this issue.
Btw, every moonkin should take a look at his (Grey) blog once in a while

From what I saw today, in 10 men raid, I had 2500 SP without flasks and no shammys, but with food buff, mage/pallys/priest/druid buffs
Before the patch, I had around 2400 in 10 men with those same buffs. So...around 100 sp more, wich is around 100 dps.


Edit. About the Innervate change...As a Boomkin, I liked it. Before the patch it was nearly useless to me. Gave me around 4k mana. So...yeah, useless. I'll put it back on my bar now. As a Off-healer, imo, its pretty cool to be able to Innervate pallys and shammys and actually help. Doesnt change that much to the druid healer though. A litlle, but not that much. I hardly am oom anyway, even on 10 men ulduar (I almost never heal 25 men. we dont have another boomkin).

Edited, May 20th 2009 2:18am by Brisin

Thanks Brisin/Arex.


@Arex,

I checked out your armory and noticed you only have 1/3 in Moonglow and no points in Intensity... how is your mileage with mana?

Also noticed you have put points into Brambles but not improved Insect Swarm, I remember seeing a post a while ago that Brambles was a definite dps increase but does it outweigh the benefits of imp. IS or was that personal preference?

Cheers.



Edited, May 20th 2009 2:21am by apothik

I raid with 2-3 ret pallies and 2 hunters, I don't have any issues with mana whatsoever. I hardly ever go oom and if I do I pop innervate. My crit isn't overly high or anything like that I just have lots o' haste to push more crits out with SF during solar eclipse.

As for the brambles I use it because my trees hit like trucks and before we pop hero my guild announces it so I can pop them right before hand since they're affected by it. I've seen my trees crit for 2k before so if you know the fights you'll know the perfect time to pop them and push the maximum dps.

I've been tempted to try out using imp IS again, I used to use it when I was raiding naxx early on for the crit but I didn't really like it that much. I have this tendency to let IS fall off before I proc lunar eclipse so I feel its probably best to just have brambles.



I always starfire. I probably should test to see whats better I just think I'd rather crit starfire for 12-13k than wrath for 7-8k damage crits. I have no definate evidence that SF is better than wrath it's merely my preference.

Also, I creeped your armory Netharion and you need more haste. You should be over 500 haste w/o a doubt you'll see definate improvements in your dps with more haste.

During hero/bloodlust I can hit a haste pot and push my starfire casts to near 1 second casts. Add onto that I pop my trinket which will put me over 3k spell power, and if I'm really lucky my other trinket will proc more spell power and give me something around 3500 spell power which leads to 16-17k starfire crits every second or so.

Haste = Good :D

Edit: Forgot to mention, an easy way to pick up haste is to use a Deathchill cloak. The thing is absolutely insane for the amount of haste you can put on it, plus it gives crit. No stats but still, so much haste.

Edited, May 20th 2009 11:15am by ArexLovesPie

I haven't gotten anything but the gloves yet so far and that was in the one 10 man I was able to run. I'm hanging back on getting gear because I want the Lifebinder staff from Freya so ******* bad I would kill for it.

Plus it doesn't help we gear our healer/tanks up first since they kind of you know... Make raiding possible :D

Once I get the two piece set and can do some testing with it I'll tell you what I find. Frankly I'm a little scared to lose the 4 piece t7 bonus because thats a good chunk of crit but one wrath crit means 3 more wrath casts before the NG proc goes off so odds are in your favor that if you can crit once you'll crit again to proc eclipse.