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#1 May 07 2009 at 5:11 AM Rating: Decent
Ok I am still saving up for the actual dual spec, but since it came out I have built a fairly decent healing set for when I do get it. I have about 1500 sp right now and have stepped into all the easy heroics and most of the hard ones without any problems. Then my guild asked me to heal Emalon for them. I did fine and we downed him, but every time I changed targets off the tank to heal, the pally healer had already healed them. I had no idea how he changed targets and healed them so fast. It ended up that the pally was way overgeared and ended up healing the adds tank + raid while I healed the Emalon tank while throwing a few wild growths in every 10 or so seconds. After the raid I called up my two friends who also play healers and ask them what I was doing wrong. Both of them responded with the same thing asking "Do you have healbot?" So I ended up downloading it and then I logged on and my immediate response was "WTF is this how do I use this thing?!?!?" and then I came here...Healers, how do you use this thing?

I can't access armory from this computer but my druid's name is Bigbrownbear on Deathwing server if anybody feels like going there to give advice on gear, enchants, gems, etc. I believe I am resto atm so I should have my healing set on.

Thanks in advance guys!

-BBB
#2 May 07 2009 at 5:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think I was the same as you when I first downloaded Healbot but in a nutshell you just point and click on the bars representing the people that are in your party/raid.

My advice is go into the menus and change the spells that are cast to a way that seems easy to you. The basic set up is that for each mouse button you can have a spell linked to just clicking a mouse button, alt+mouse button, ctrl+mouse button and shift+mouse button (there may be more but as a pally healer I have never needed that many options). Once you have it set up then go into a 5-man dungeon (doesn't have to be heroic or a high level one) and give it a whirl.
#3 May 07 2009 at 6:33 AM Rating: Decent
Thank you for the imput. I will try this. So this means that by targeting somebody I can heal them with the same click? I downloaded this very late last night so I was kinda tired and that may have been my problem.
#4 May 07 2009 at 6:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, you can have anyone/anything targeted and when you click on the health bar in healbot to cast a spell on someone it will do it to that person without the need to change target. Basically the reason why the pally could spam like a nutter keeping people up.
#5 May 07 2009 at 8:03 AM Rating: Decent
Wow that would make life so much easier. Would beacon of light have anything to do with that too? My pally is only around 55 so I don't really know the mechanics behind that.
#6 May 07 2009 at 8:58 AM Rating: Excellent
There are a lot of options you can change and modify in healbot. I am still just figuring some of these out but I'll try to share some of the things I use. There is a lot here that I really am not totally sure of more due to not even trying to figure it all out yet. (sorry about that, but maybe we can learn together)

General Tab:A lot of this is clear toggle on or off options for various things. The bottom is where you set up to automatically notify a channel of your healbot actions. (healing, rezzing, etc) I have mine set up only to notify on resurrection so another healer and I aren't rezzing the same people. (notifying every time I cast a heal spell would be insane)

Spells Tab: You want to go here asap and set up what mouse button/comb does what. So in the end you basically hover over the player bar in healbot and click a mouse button to heal them, cure them, buff them, etc.

The smart cast is what it does out of combat type thing. If I try to healbot heal a dead person out of combat its going to rez them. Etc.

Healing Tab: Make sure you check the things you want on your healbot window. I always had to add in pets. Also I have no idea what changes if you click self, self pets, main tanks, and vehicle... as right now they aren't checked yet I still get them on the bar. (maybe they are ordered different? Must test this)

Cure Tab: This one I find to be very very useful.

First, I wanted it to be very clear who had poisons and curses on my healbot window. so I went down and checked the two options under Bar Colours. Then I clicked individually on those bars for both poison and curse. I changed it to a color I would notice, that would stand out. (change to your tastes/spells)

Second I checked "Display Warning on debuff" and also to "Play sound on debuff" and chose sound.

At the top, make sure that you do not have it checked to ignore debuffs you want to see.

Now when someone in the raid or group is debuffed I get color and sound. I never ever miss it, ever, and my reaction time is improved. (hey every millisecond counts?)

Skin 1 and 2 Tabs: Here you can change up your appearance. I don't recall getting too much into skin 1 tab yet, so I'll just go to tab 2.

Number of Columns: It wasn't such a big deal until I did my first 25 man with healbot. It is all personal preference and how it meshes with your ui. I like mine to fit in the lower half of my screen so mess around with it and change column # etc and see what you like. It might take some fiddling. When I'm experimenting trying to figure the options out I'll usually have someone else in the group fighting so I can test it out and see what changes.

Buffs Tab: This last one you can set it up so that when one of your buffs is about to wear off, or already has, the players healbot bar will change color. You can also choose who it checks. for instance for my Mark/Gift of the Wild it checks the raid (everyone in group or raid basically), but for thorns I just have it set to melee usually. Everyone's different in preference and what works for them. (for example I probably don't need the thorn one as I am pretty good at keeping that one up)

You can also set up when you get that warning. I have it set to show me 30sec before the buff wears on short buffs and 2 mins on long ones.

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Obviously I just touched on a few things. I suggest spending some time with a few patient friends in a group to get to know your healbot and mess around with the settings.

good luck, I'll try to add anything new I figure out, now that you've got me trying to figure it all out again :)

Also, remember this: People might try to tell you which addon you should use and call you a moron if you don't use it. Go ahead, try them out. In the end you decide which one best works for you. When people kept telling me to use another addon over this one I went an gave it a good try (I mean only a moron wouldn't use it, according to them). The fact of the matter is, that for me, healbot worked better for me. Perhaps it has something to do with my physical disability that said people have no clue about. They might if I kept using the other addon. We're all different so what works better for one person, might not for the other.

*edited out some rambling, no really, I did*





Edited, May 7th 2009 1:16pm by darkmoss
#7 May 07 2009 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
Wow thanks for the imput that helped so much! I am messing around with it all right now I just have to figures out all my mouse-spell combo's since there are just so many druid healing spells lol.
#8 May 07 2009 at 4:01 PM Rating: Decent
Is there anyway to set up the buff part of Healbot to give an audio alert when buffs are about to wear off? The colors are useful, but sometimes I just don't notice when the colors change on my mage because I'm focused on casting spells at the mobs.
#9 May 07 2009 at 4:39 PM Rating: Excellent
I do not see a way at the moment. At least not on that tab Smiley: frown

That would be another useful function to have. I'll see if I can find any more information on it.
#10 May 08 2009 at 6:41 AM Rating: Decent
Ok so I tried this out last night in OS 10. I was main heals and ended up doing around 40% of the healing. The other healer (disc priest) did around 30% but priests mitigate a lot of damamge so whatever. Then there were 3 rets who each did 10% healing via judgement of light art of war procs when there was an opening in their rotation. I loved having everyone's health frame right there + HOT/buff timers and color codes debuffs (absolutely f***ing amazing for decursing on the pats who give the curse of mending or something like that). I did however have some trouble binding clicks to certain heals. The only one I managed to bind was rejuvination to clicking the button that functions mainly as a zoom in/out. I could not change the left and right clicks away from target and show player options, respectively. I ended up just spamming wild growth and throwing rejuvinations on anyone taking damage and did fine. The only people who died didn't move out of void zones. Any way I can fix the mouse trouble?
#11 May 08 2009 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Not sure about Healbot as I use Clique which I think is pretty well similar excepting it can rotate between different pre-sets and will allow you to set buttons as DPS, Heals or whatever. It will even automatically swap the saved settings every time you change specs so I can have two different versions of key bindings that will be active right away after the spec swap.

Not sure about binding left and right mouse buttons but did you try using <shift left button> etc or were you just trying to bind a left or right click. This sounds kind of silly to be asking that but there is that really off chance you thought you could bind the buttons themselves with no other moderator <alt, shift, ctrl etc.>

Does anyone use Clique over Healbot for healing or is there a strong preference from one over the other in regards to healing? I have never seen the Healbot mod but it sounds like it does the exact same thing, but maybe with a bit less functionality. Curious to know more about a comparative analysis between the two.

Cheers,
#12 May 08 2009 at 3:16 PM Rating: Good
I use clique and find it really easy to use. I now use it on all my toons as there is always things like Horn of Winter for my DK or mend pet for my hunter etc.

I have changed ctrl left and right click to my target & target menu options, allowing me to use the regular left & right clicks for heals. Note:- This is all for clicking on unit frames or grid. I can still manually select people by clicking on their toon etc.


left/right/thumb click = lifebloom/rejuv/HT
alt left/right/thumb click = regrowth/nourish/wild growth
shift left/right click = decurse/depoison
alt-shift left/right click = MotW/Thorns
ctrl-shift left click = GotW
1 = Natures Swiftness
2 = Swiftmend
3 = Innervate

I may need to re-arrange these a bit as I don't use lifebloom anywhere near as much as I used to and I really must get myself organised with Barkskin at 4 as when mobs are hitting me I never remember it and tend to just run around like a girl healing myself and screaming get it off me :)

#13 May 09 2009 at 3:56 AM Rating: Good
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I haven't done much healing on my druid. I do have a disc alt. She has been using Grid to heal. As the click and push heal works for my no mouse setup.

Either way can one of you post a screen shot of a healer UI. Would be most helpful.

I have no idea where to stick the frames to be honest. I kind of have them plunked in the left middle screen area, which I really don't like.

I like a clean UI. And I like the self and target frames in an easy to view area. Might use the focus frame with her. Would involve incorporating set focus commands into macros but that is trivial. I really want to see where healer stick their healing mod UI frames.

Thanks.

edit: clarity

Edited, May 9th 2009 7:56am by Horsemouth
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#14 May 10 2009 at 6:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I was once Feral and went over to the tree side as well. I love healbot.

I love the really simple hotkeys. Pretty much I program nourish, wild growth and regen on my first 3 then for my shifts I have decurse, some other heals etc

Screenshot
HEre is a somewhat old screenie, the green bar to the right is healbot. Its pretty simple. "0" means they have full life and any negative number is the hp they are missing. I love wild growth because its our kmart special heal -5 for the price of 1.

Generally druids are put on raid heals (and we rock at it)

(in the group I was in, we had 2 trees, 1 pally, 1 holy priest and one disc.)

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