Well, which stats are best for a resto shammy for pve?
Well, I always thought i needed to stack up spell power and then crit chance.
but is mp5 what i really need and not crit chance?
is it different for raids? then for 5 mans?
And what stats does a elemental shaman need for pvp and pve?
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Well, which stats are best for a resto shammy for pve? - MP5/int until your not running out of mana, then SP until your overhealing is high, then crit/haste depending what you feel like.
Well, I always thought i needed to stack up spell power and then crit chance.
but is mp5 what i really need and not crit chance? - Yes
is it different for raids? then for 5 mans? - Not really. If you can heal raids, you can heal 5 mans.
And what stats does a elemental shaman need for pvp - Res and stack lots of prayer
and pve? - SP and crit, running out of mana is pretty much impossible.
Well, I always thought i needed to stack up spell power and then crit chance.
but is mp5 what i really need and not crit chance? - Yes
is it different for raids? then for 5 mans? - Not really. If you can heal raids, you can heal 5 mans.
And what stats does a elemental shaman need for pvp - Res and stack lots of prayer
and pve? - SP and crit, running out of mana is pretty much impossible.
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and pve? - SP and crit, running out of mana is pretty much impossible.
You forgot the most important stats: Hit rating till cap then SP and crit.
I've always been a big believer in spellpower. But I realize some of my thinking is obsolete (back when you could downrank). Back in the downranking days elitistjerks always recommended sp over anything else. Think I had my +healing around 2400 when I quit wow last summer.
But obviously sp is useless if you are running out of mana. But I think you'll find you'll get plenty of mp5 with the sp gear you'll find. Assuming you choose healing mail and not elemental mail. So yes choose mp5 over crit. This is a no brainer.
The tougher decision for me is sacrificing mp5 for haste. i don't have enough haste gear at all. :(. I've always stacked sp and mp5, and never haste. But now I have very little haste, because I'm afraid of removing mp5. The obvious solution is to mis/match gear for certain fights. Short intense fights should get haste gear, where longevity fights get mp5 gear. Which means you'll have to enchant more stuff, but thems the breaks.
Speaking of enchants, I tend to go with spellpower enchants on everything. But make sure you put mp5 on chest and greater vitality (mp5) on boots. Int on shield.
Edited, Mar 25th 2009 3:51am by thrashering
But obviously sp is useless if you are running out of mana. But I think you'll find you'll get plenty of mp5 with the sp gear you'll find. Assuming you choose healing mail and not elemental mail. So yes choose mp5 over crit. This is a no brainer.
The tougher decision for me is sacrificing mp5 for haste. i don't have enough haste gear at all. :(. I've always stacked sp and mp5, and never haste. But now I have very little haste, because I'm afraid of removing mp5. The obvious solution is to mis/match gear for certain fights. Short intense fights should get haste gear, where longevity fights get mp5 gear. Which means you'll have to enchant more stuff, but thems the breaks.
Speaking of enchants, I tend to go with spellpower enchants on everything. But make sure you put mp5 on chest and greater vitality (mp5) on boots. Int on shield.
Edited, Mar 25th 2009 3:51am by thrashering
My personal gearing choice currently, with my SP more or less stagnate at 2100 without earthliving or any other buffs, and around 750 mp/5 with watershield is simple:
10 pt Haste = 1 pt MP/5.
I could care less about crit. Crit happens and we have talents that up it for us, and as we are still almost always assigned raid healing, being able to crit on one heal doesn't matter much when the next chain heal is 2.5 seconds away, and the highest 2 melee dps'ers in the raid go down while you're waiting on it to cast ...
Starting out .. I stacked SP until I hit about 1800. Then I stacked MP/5 until I was no longer struggling in 10 man raids. Then I started stacking haste.
10 pt Haste = 1 pt MP/5.
I could care less about crit. Crit happens and we have talents that up it for us, and as we are still almost always assigned raid healing, being able to crit on one heal doesn't matter much when the next chain heal is 2.5 seconds away, and the highest 2 melee dps'ers in the raid go down while you're waiting on it to cast ...
Starting out .. I stacked SP until I hit about 1800. Then I stacked MP/5 until I was no longer struggling in 10 man raids. Then I started stacking haste.
Unlike BC, INT is now pretty important too. Especially starting out.
http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t24796-shaman_restoration/#Selecting_Gear wrote:
10 Intellect = 6 mp5 if you have a 5-minute fight with Mana Tide and 100% uptime from Replenishment.
10 Intellect also gives 3.3 crit rating and 1.8 spell power
10 Intellect also gives 3.3 crit rating and 1.8 spell power
I prefer to stack mp5 until around 380ish with water shield (while casting as that's the only one of those that matters) and then work on other things.. my priority list is roughly:
mp5 > haste > int > spellpower > crit
Once you're pushing 400 or so mp5 you can stop being obsessive about it, but the fact of the matter is that we don't have any talents or anything that improve our mana regen as a percentage of a stat (the way every other spellcasting class does) so we need mp5 and we need a lot of it. After you've taken care of the problem where you go OOM in every boss fight, you can start improving your actual heals. As someone noted above, Chain Heal (and Healing Wave) are 2.5 sec cast times with no haste, this is completely unacceptable so haste becomes our next priority. The nice part of this is that as you collect gear with haste and mp5 on it your spellpower will just sort of go up all by itself because it's on the same gear. You don't need to gear for spellpower (though consider gemming for it a little, the purple gem that gives sp/mp5 is a good choice), it will just kind of happen.
At the time of this posting I'm sitting at 394 mp5, 487 haste (little less than 15%), and 2212 spellpower. At the moment I'm looking for gear that improves my haste more, though it's getting harder and harder to find while trying to keep my mp5 roughly where it is
mp5 > haste > int > spellpower > crit
Once you're pushing 400 or so mp5 you can stop being obsessive about it, but the fact of the matter is that we don't have any talents or anything that improve our mana regen as a percentage of a stat (the way every other spellcasting class does) so we need mp5 and we need a lot of it. After you've taken care of the problem where you go OOM in every boss fight, you can start improving your actual heals. As someone noted above, Chain Heal (and Healing Wave) are 2.5 sec cast times with no haste, this is completely unacceptable so haste becomes our next priority. The nice part of this is that as you collect gear with haste and mp5 on it your spellpower will just sort of go up all by itself because it's on the same gear. You don't need to gear for spellpower (though consider gemming for it a little, the purple gem that gives sp/mp5 is a good choice), it will just kind of happen.
At the time of this posting I'm sitting at 394 mp5, 487 haste (little less than 15%), and 2212 spellpower. At the moment I'm looking for gear that improves my haste more, though it's getting harder and harder to find while trying to keep my mp5 roughly where it is
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Nah, PVE ele goes hit (to cap), SP, haste, then way distant is crit.
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Nah, PVE ele goes hit (to cap), SP, haste, then way distant is crit.
Right you are, however, as the title of the thread indicates, we're discussing resto stat choices :)
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Right you are, however, as the title of the thread indicates, we're discussing resto stat choices :)
Er, the last line of the OP was asking about elemental PVE/PVP stats. Someone also answered incorrectly saying that crit came after SP so I just thought I'd chime in with a correction :)
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