Could it be that its tanking thats too easy?Follow

At least paladin tanking. I run on raids as ret or holy. And while I freely admit that healing is hilariously easy in its current state with the crazy mana; followed by perhaps the easiest dps spec ever ret...well except for perhaps elemental shaman. Tanking just seems easy beyond belief.
I gemmed and enchanted up my tanking gear that I had gotten since the expac, and with not tanking in perhaps six or so months tanked a cot mount run. I admit heroics are not hard, but come on. With 2 of the 3 dps being guild tanks along to jeer at me and give me "helpful" advice attempting to pull threat the entire run it still had to be the easiest thing I have ever done. Even easier than ret dps.


I know they put a lot of work into tanking being more fun, but come on.

I have gotten to the point on a lot of heroic dungeons that have undead (H DTK for example) where I will open up with AS/HS/Consecrate/HoR/JoV/SoR/Holy Wrath and then sit there auto-attacking until the DPS kills everything on trash pulls. I have so much threat and mitigation after about 7 initial moves that I really don't have to do anything else on the trash fights.

The only exception to this is if I have my guild's best mage with me. He puts out about 4.25k dps even in heroic 5-mans, so I have to put in a few more threat moves to make sure he doesn't get aggro.

So yeah, if you don't have a brain-fart and forget to put RF up, and your opening rotation builds a ton of up-front threat on multiple targets, it is pretty easy. I usually am not THAT lazy and will keep up the standard 9/6/9 rotation, but if we are doing an easy heroic and I am eating a sandwich (CapJack's sandwich?), then I do slack off on occasion.

Paladin tanking has always been pretty simple. Now content is simple.

Nothing hits super hard, if you are undergeared perhaps Patchwerk, Malygos and Sarth with 2 or 3 drakes up. So only like 3 bosses out of 17 that are somewhat hard, and only one you can'treally outgear being 3d (though more gear = more easy). Then there is trash, trash in wotlk is pretty much not going to wipe a raid unless they do something really really reallly wrong.

holding threat is only easy untill everyones as geared as you are and knows wtf their doing, we have probly 20+ people in guild that can hold over 2500 dps in 5 mans, pretty challenging to hold threat over some of them without going oom, just adds more fun though

on a side note i single tanked 25 man patchwerk for 40% (after all melee were dead)...that was rather fun, almost pulled off the kill with that blinding show of awesome...lol

cant wait till ulduar comes out. and to all the people ******** about how easy raids are now...raids in bc werent much harder, if at all, unless you are mentally retarded and cant follow simple instructions

and remember, there are a ton more prot pallies out there now since tanking has become so easy for every class...but still very few of them know wtf they are doing

and how does divine intervention make you a better tank? ive pulled off countless raid boss kills with no healers up for atleast the last 20%, and countless 5 man heroic boss kills with healers going down right away due to them not paying attention, i fight to the end and leave it up to a dps to di if i go down, di'ing and whipeing a group on a whim is a copout and imo makes you a worse tank for not trying something that was most likely do'able given the right communication with your group, that and i just love not letting people roll on loot that like to yell "whipe it!" in vent and suicide just to watch us kill the boss. Maybe i just know what im doing enough to pull us out of a bad situation, or maybe i just get lucky, either way i would definately lose respect for any tank that decides to whipe the group because things arent going exactly as planned, all it takes atleast 80% of the time is communication

Edited, Mar 28th 2009 2:42am by OMGEverythingIsTaken

/agree. a tank usually has a good grasp of the current situation. you can read when things are going to go downhill. you see which of your healers are out of play, you see how many dps bit the dust, you see if you have any OTs left up. you can stand there and burn CDs and delay the inevitable, but sometimes your time is better spent starting fresh.

learning(timing) Grobbulus was a nice example of this. you can DI now or spend the next 20mins rezzing noobs from the frogger slimes.