Gemming for threatFollow

A few questions:

What is "ok" TPS? Do you have Blessing of Sanctuary in your raids? Who are you putting Vigilance on? Your crit is really low ... might be worth it to pick up Cruelty and drop Deep Wounds? I'm not 100% sure on the theorycrafting.

Also - when are you having trouble? Is this on progression fights? Trash? Bosses you have on farm? Heroics?

If you're only doing 10s, you're more than geared enough to start pushing a bit more in the way of threat stats. The only thing you can do with your spec to push more threat would be to switch shield specialization to 2/5 and move those two points over into cruelty for 2/5 cruelty. You were correct in picking up AttT over Cruelty, it's much better for threat. You're a little over halfway to the hit cap, and the same for the expertise soft cap. If you want to regem, just pick up expertise/stam gems for red/blue sockets and hit/stam gems for yellow sockets.

Hit: 32.79 rating = 1% chance to hit
Expertise: 32.79 ratings = 1% reduction to dodge, 1% reduction to parry.

Until the soft cap, expertise will offer an effective 2% hit chance, which makes it in all ways the superior stat. Once you've achieved soft cap, the two give the exact same threat returns with expertise remaining the better stat due to lessened damage via parry hasted boss attacks.

Editing for caps for you:

Hit: 262

Expertise: 0/3 Vitality: 26 (Dodge soft cap), 56 (Parry hard cap)
3/3 Vitality: 20 (Dodge soft cap), 50 (Parry hard cap)




Edited, Mar 4th 2009 1:41am by FletusSanguine

Honesly, it really won't effect your survivability as much as you may think. You've already reached and breached the effective health minimums for the zones you're doing. You'll take less damage from hasted attacks because of reduced parries, so while you're trading some stam, you're gaining some mitigation back passively.

You feel some of the dps are having to back off or they are backing off?

Does anyone actually pull threat and which ones? Lower threat threshold doesn't necessarily mean you should put vigilance on them. High dps with little or no threat dumps should always take priority. Rogues have threat dumps and rarely need vig.

Tps isn't just your gear, stats, and spec, one of the most important part of tps you left out, your rotation.

Dk's do
Ret Pallie's do
Mage's do

**edit** screwed up quote.

Edited, Apr 8th 2009 11:22pm by redbarronthesecond

Necro a month old thread is bad, unless the forum is so dead and barren that the first page has posts that go back 2-3 months. Meh, it could use some discussion.

DK's have subersion: 25% overall threat while in blood or unholy presence. I'm not familiar with pallies.

Fantasism- Inreases the critical strike chance of all judgements capable of a critical hit by 25% and reduces the threat of all actions by 30% excpet while under the effect of righteoud fury.


I think that would be one hell of a threat reducer.

The downside to the mage invis is that on a lot of fights it won't be that useful because damage taken will break the effect. Incidental damage isn't uncommon in boss fights, so mages can get knocked out of invis before it completes sometimes.