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#1 Jan 20 2009 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
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The first toon I ever rolled was a dwarf warrior. I got him to 45 with basically no clue to what I was doing (he was arms yet was dual-wielding through his late 20s). Then I shelved him to join friends on another server and haven't looked back. Until this weekend.

A RL friend from that first server re-entered the game, so I dusted off my warrior and began leveling him again, this time with only a bit more of a clue. He is hideously geared and since he basically only had a big two-hander (the axe from the warrior quest) I kept him arms. But it's obvious that the class has changed immensely since my dalliance with it as a total noob. So I have several questions that were not addressed in the excellent, but TBC-era FAQ.

I'm sure, should I go to Northrend with him, I'll end up tanking. But until then, is arms even vaguely viable for leveling anymore? Now that they're removing the hit penalty on TG, is there any reason to go Arms? Does anyone even use it in PvP anymore (I only see prot warriors) Sad, because I enjoy the timing challenges of Arms but it seems useless.

On a related note, I ended up dpsing in a ZF pug and was confused as to how to handle myself. I don't have a swing timer so I feared I was gimping my dps with slam. I can't overpower in Bezerker, so I was just autoattacking until I could WW. What should I be doing? (Arguably respeccing or getting a swing timer -- feel free to let me know.)

Finally, I was surprised to see a dwarf's old axe specialization is now mace specialization. My arms build took poleaxe. Again, this may be moot because it might be insane to remain arms, but should a dwarf arms warrior go the mace route? The armor penetration seems meh compared to the crit bonus for PvE and pre-resil PvP.
#2 Jan 20 2009 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't have a swing timer so I feared I was gimping my dps with slam.


Not an issue anymore. Slam doesn't reset your swing anymore, just pauses it for the duration of slam. So slam away.

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Now that they're removing the hit penalty on TG, is there any reason to go Arms? Does anyone even use it in PvP anymore (I only see prot warriors) Sad, because I enjoy the timing challenges of Arms but it seems useless.


TG works well. It probably doesn't do as well as arms does for leveling. While BT is quite nice for leveling although. MS is still a great PvP ability. Arms just doesn't have the survivability that prot does, which is important to warrior pvp.

But Arms does just fine in PvP. And pre-end game, arms can be really fun?

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Finally, I was surprised to see a dwarf's old axe specialization is now mace specialization. My arms build took poleaxe. Again, this may be moot because it might be insane to remain arms, but should a dwarf arms warrior go the mace route? The armor penetration seems meh compared to the crit bonus for PvE and pre-resil PvP.


Honestly, I think Mace spec is overlooked. Armor penetration is an amazing stat. And with northrend gear having it in abundance (yes greens have it too now), it stacks very easily. But for the weapon you have, I'd stick with polax for now.

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I can't overpower in Bezerker, so I was just autoattacking until I could WW. What should I be doing? (Arguably respeccing or getting a swing timer -- feel free to let me know.)


Stay in battle stance, apply rend, use OP. This will give you a foundation of DPS that is really nice right now as arms. Taste for blood is very nice.

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Would you mind linking an armory profile?

#3 Jan 21 2009 at 7:50 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks.

www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kul+Tiras&n=Minimelee

Like I said, hideously geared, he was my first toon. I'll try to rectify that in OL.
#4 Jan 21 2009 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
Good to see your going back to your warrior... Its my main and I have been through many different talent builds you have to remember that according to Blizzard "Arms (PVP) Fury (PVE) and Prot (Raid and Instances)". This doesnt mean that this is the only way. Personally I love going DPS and running through an instance as fury warrior with 2 X 2 Handers and getting top DPS. Some say they love Arms some say Fury... either is good for leveling I personally think Fury but its very close... I have to say leveling as prot is pretty boring because you don't take much damage to your toon, but if it takes 4 or 5 seconds longer to make a kill its too long for me... But in instances its fun to be a Tank again...
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