Moar Nerfs, gief moar nerfs!Follow

Yup, it hasn't stopped yet.

Latest changes from the PTR:


Because we needed more nerfs to PvP ><
(Both the LnL and the Viper change are nerfs that you'll feel in arena.)

FI change is neat though, might make arcane actually useful.

Edited, Jan 9th 2009 1:26pm by Aethien

Well its ridiculous why they keep nerfing us as hunters.Melee class 5 or 6 wacks and were dead.

Spell casters feared us were running around cant shoot life drained in 5 secs.In bgs we should be able to kill just as fast as were being killed not having to pump 25-30 shots if not more into someone and kiting them half way across ther battle field. My stats # Damage: 1064 - 1286,# Power: 3114,# Hit Rating: 273,# Crit Chance: 26.54%

And I can rate you down too.

Now back on topic, the LnL change isn't a big hurt for PvE because we'll just trap every 30 seconds instead of every 24 and we wont have the random SS LnL every ~1 minute.

For PvP however, it reduces the little burst we have by a lot.
Why? because you really want resourcefulness +4pc PvP to get 22 sec cooldown traps to help you control the fight.
If you have that however, you can't get LnL more than once each 44 seconds.

And the Imp. Stings change means we wont be able to drain or disarm anymore vs any team that can disspell and arent morons.

I really dont see this next set as a series of nerfs. I am not a pvp'er never have been. SV on the ptr was going to get hurt, anyone who has read about it knows that. It should still be a useful spec though and LIke you said you can still trap dance just will not have to as often.

The buff to cats rake has me happy. I still think that when it all goes live BM will be the lower dps of the specs. If ES gets hit too hard though we could see MM apear as the top dog. will have to wait and see.

On another note. Hunter pvp is so broken anyway it will take a miracle to bring us up online with some of the other classes. Right now though I am liking MM burst. Serpent sting, SS, Aimed, Arcane, Chimera is quite a bit in just a few seconds. If you can catch someone at range they have a large chunk of health missing now. Throw in scatter, silencing with readiness and traps and you can cause some mayhem. I know I have the most fun in WG just frustrating and upsetting people.

You do realize that Mages, Rogues, Death Knights and Retribution paladins (for starters) can do more damage in less time, and more often than us.

Im happy to be honest. I never have liked the whole bm thing of "put your faith in your pet" bit... So i have been MM for some time and from what i can see is that the only nerf as a mm in pve is SS and volley... but honestly... if your using volley against boss there is something wrong. unless its adds. I expect a dps drop due to SS being nerfed but other than that my pet dps will increase and everything is the same... Nonetheless hunters were meant to top dps from the word go in wotlk and as other classes got geared we would slowly be brought back inline with every other class... I mean up until 25 naxx i had only been beaten in dps once in a heroic but now that everyone is geared im finding im about 2nd -3rd against bosses (still topping overall dps thx to volley - will be short lived). Overall i think hunters will become a slightly better than average dps in raids but not the best.

Not sure about pvp though... have to see how it rolls out.

Erm... hunters arent useless in PVP. even against melee classes. I very rarely get beaten by a warrior - Very rarely. Traps, concussion and the glyph that gives you a short sprint every time you dodge gives you ample room to lay waste to warriors. DK's are harder but still possible... just need your trinket and jump back and rediness lets me rip into them even more. rogues are easy if you know they are there thanks to flares. if you dont know they are there then its game over. But pally's.... yea thats a joke. I doubt a hunter has ever been able to defeat a competant equally geared pally... its a joke... every weakness a hunter has is rolled into a pally. And im not even BM spec so if i can do it then a bm should theorhetically do better...

As for BG's i often top the charts for killing blows, highest dps... think about what your doing though, your not a rogue so dont wander off... stay with 2-3 other people and you will stay alive for ample time... pick your fights dont just rush in (unless they are capturing a gy/running flag/ capturing a key point etc)

And Arena? yea 5's is devistating because everything targets you first. However, in my 2's i have a rogue partner and we do ok... they go for me first but as long as its not a pally or 2 mages i can usually stand enough heat for us to start hitting back harder... But arena is still very unhunter friendly you just need a good partenr and good strat... just keep away from 5's coz your worth nothing lol